‘Shiptober: ‘NCIS’ season 13 and Tony pairing possibilities (Zoe, Ziva, and Jeanne)
It seems like once a year, we gather together in one way or another to discuss the “NCIS” question we get here at CarterMatt more than any other: Is Ziva coming back this season? It has now been more than two years since her exit, and since that time the show has done a wide array of jostling when it comes to Tony’s love life. He did get a more consistent girlfriend back in season 12 with Zoe Keates, but at the moment the status of that relationship has not been fully explored. Also, we know that Scottie Thompson is coming back on the show for an arc as Jeanne, who he certainly had a complicated history with during some early seasons. Honesty was clearly the problem there.
So for this article, we’re going to spend a minute looking at all three different possible love interests for the character, with us at the end raising one simple question: Who do you think is the right person for the character? We want to know your take in the poll below!
Zoe Keates – As the current girlfriend, she is the one who DiNozzo has the closest attachment to. Their history together predates “NCIS,” so she knows him better than almost anyone at this point. She also pushes him, and she’s met the elder DiNozzo to go along with that. The thing that makes love interests on this show so tricky is that the majority of the time, they are limited to more or less to recurring roles. Therefore, we don’t really know whether or not the writers are planning for Zoe to be a long-term love interest or not. She could be gone at any moment. We do know that Marisol Nichols is rather busy, having done work on “Teen Wolf” and also “Criminal Minds” recently.
Ziva David – The following for Tony and Ziva (“Tiva”) is easily the most-popular of any “NCIS” ‘ship out there, but the main issue in hoping for these two to get back together is that Cote de Pablo’s future with the franchise is still unclear. We think that all parties could be more receptive to a return now than they were at this point a year ago, but that is no guarantee. This story was definitely built over time like she was destined to potentially be the one for him, but can they get back to where they once were after so much time away?
Jeanne Benoit – In some ways, you can ask the same thing and then some for Jeanne, whose time with Tony was destroyed by her family connections and his undercover work among other things. They did have great chemistry during season 4, but that now feels like another era of the show entirely. Maybe the years have been kind to them, and they could see this now as an opportunity to be on the same page. All we know is that Thompson seems to be excited about a return to the show as this character.
$112956789
October 13, 2015 @ 3:43 am
I like all the potential Tony pairings in the poll. I liked him with Jeanne, I like him with Zoe and I really wanted him to get with Ziva when she was still on the show. I’ll probably be happy no matter who he ends up with if it’s one of those 3.
Matt Carter
October 13, 2015 @ 12:03 am
Hey all — just a reminder to keep the comments reasonably lighthearted! It’s just a fun piece, so keeping things fun is appreciated :)
Beverly
October 13, 2015 @ 12:06 am
This is the kind of stuff that goes on at the NCIS Facebook page. I finally just unliked the page. I hope this site doesn’t turn into the same thing with the same list of characters as I have always liked your site.
MrsCarter101
October 13, 2015 @ 1:05 am
Thank you for enjoying our site, Beverly, we would hate to lose you as a reader. We would like the conversations to stay a little more lighthearted. I understand fan passion (I have ships that I stand strongly behind too like Toby and Happy from “Scorpion”), but this shiptober series is supposed to be fun and we want this to be a place for everyone to talk about why they like a certain ship more so then why they don’t like someone else’s ship.
chris
October 13, 2015 @ 1:58 am
This should be . Marisol Nichols saw the fun and tweeted the link. She has been absolutely brutalized all day on Twitter.
Any time ziva’s name is mentioned, the fun is not allowed and the gloves come off.
When an actress is attacked and insulted, by the same people who are posting here…
annsan
October 13, 2015 @ 3:45 am
Reasonably lighthearted would have happened had ziva been left off the ‘poll’. Putting her in it ensures that the nutso tiva fans will issue a call to arms to declare victory at any cost. This includes jumping all over MN and ST whenever possible.
Sandi Brooks
October 13, 2015 @ 2:57 pm
Ziva fans have not said a single bad thing to either actress, and have not been engaging in twitter convos w them. We can discuss chemistry, show history, etc among ourselves. The hate talk came from the anti Ziva/Cote group. Tiva fans may have finally responded to some challenges, but did not seek out either party. We are capable of articulate discourse without hate speech.
We know what directors, show developers etc all said abt the place and importance to the show of Tiva, so we dont need other validation. The show used the MW/CdP Tony/Ziza pairing to promote and sell the show for eight years, so yes, there are fans that are invested in what was ultimately being “sold”. It was not Jeanne and not Zoe that were around with Michael all over the world , appearance after appearance, together, for eight years. Both JB & ZK were blips on the radar in the big picture regarding the entirety of the show history. Ultimately when folks recall NCIS years from now, fhe pairing they will most remember as iconic shall always be Tony and Ziva. All the best dialoque and pairing, memorable moments were ultimately theirs, no matter what new stuff the SR throw in during.the waning years.
LSilvaxx
October 16, 2015 @ 7:18 pm
Ziva fans have been saying MANY bad things about many of the actors and actresses on NCIS since CdP’s departure. I’ve seen it myself. They either insult and trash the cast or defame them openly for everyone to see. But yes, Ziva fans have never crossed any lines and are angels *sarcasm**
Marianne Gibson
October 12, 2015 @ 11:37 pm
Ok…I know people seem to think Cote just walked off the set without rhyme or reason but that’s just not true. Cote, being the classy lady she is, never once said anything bad about her former coworkers, unlike them. The only person to stand beside her was, and still is, Michael Weatherly. Kudos for him.
A little while ago, on Twitter and on Facebook, there was a video in which Cote was the spokesperson urging women to take care of their health by getting yearly checkups for cervical cancer. She said she was “so busy having fun” that she neglected getting hers and when she did the results were questionably scary. I know if I was told I might have cancer I’d be frighten. Fortunately, the end results proved her to be healthy but the scare made her realize what was important in her life: namely family. This is why I believe she left. She needed some personal time to recoup and be with the people she loved the most.
That said, I believe Ziva is the only one for Tony. During the 8 years she did NCIS the chemistry between them literally lit up the screen and kept me glued to my chair. The only reason they never got together is, I believe, due to Show Runner, Gary Glassberb, and the writers. Now that she’s gone, so is the zing and the zap. My vote is for Ziva and only Ziva. Cote said in recent interviews for The Dove Keepers and The 33, she was open to a return if the story was right. CBS, GG and MH need to get off their egotistical high horses and bring Cote back, thereby bringing NCIS back to its former glory.
LSilvaxx
October 13, 2015 @ 5:16 am
NCIS started without Cote/Ziva. And even if Cote’s situation with the cancer campaign has been happening back then or if there’s any other reason for her departure: She behaved unprofessional and disrespectful torwards +300 people working on the show. And those people have every reason to be pissed and say that because opinions are opinions and why shouldn’t they be allowed to express theirs? Because you don’t like it? Cote is officially saying she would be open for a return, she was offered to come back for guest appearance for the 12th season under her own conditions…. so much for her wanting to come back for real. Weatherly never liked the idea of Tiva, he compared them to Herpes. Nobody cares about him, it’s always about what Cote wants. And it is obvious that Cote, for whatever reason, doesn’t want to come back at the moment (or in general) and her own fans should respect her. But they, including you, are so obsessed with a fictional character that you can’t even respect her.
The writers are not supposed to write scripts for you only. On a site note: Harmon’s afraid of Tiva? Funny, because Cote said multiple times Harmon fought for Tiva moments. So much for respecting Cote…. lol
Marianne Gibson
October 13, 2015 @ 6:11 am
You are entitled to your opinion but please, do not put words in my mouth. I never said I didn’t like other people’s view on the matter, only they behaved unprofessional. Cote was NOT under contract so she left no one high and dry. I am not begging her to come back. Yes, I would like it but I honestly don’t foresee that happening. As for the supposed offer in 2012 under her terms, now that is news to me. I never heard about it. Apparently you work on the set and know things first hand…right *very sarcastically *. What I did was say who I would like for Tony. Too bad if you don’t agree and took offense. I honestly don’t care. I am a writer myself so I know the difference between a fictional character and a real person. NCIS is fictional but that doesn’t stop the viewers from liking it. Get real. Stand in front of mirror and take your anger out on yourself.
LSilvaxx
October 13, 2015 @ 7:21 pm
She indeed said to her cast collegues she would be back for sure – which is one of the reasons why CdP/Z/T fans hate on Harmon all the time. Because he confirmed she would be back for sure after SHE told him. And literally everyone else since she was with him at the same even when he confirmed it. She stayed silent. If you don’t think that this is not unprofessional and disrespectful then nobody can help you.
It was confirmed by many people who indeed have reliable sources to the show/cast. It went on for months on social Networks. Not my fault if you have never heard about it. It’s a topic that has been known for over a year now.
I don’t care if you want Tony to be with Ziva or anyone else. That was never the point. The point is how people like you are constantly putting blame on either the CBS heads, show writers, Glasberg, Harmon and the rest of the cast and pretend like Cote was such a poor victim and everyone on the show was/is against her. That’s called defaming. And if you hear those BS for years from the same people who can’t live without a fictional character on a tv show then you’re feeling sorry for them at first but after a while, one gets annoyed and that can indeed lead to anger.
Marianne Gibson
October 13, 2015 @ 10:44 pm
Obviously you do care or you wouldn’t be trying to ream me over the coals for MY beliefs. I defamed no one but you sure are defaming her…and me. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine, no matter how misconstrued you think it is. That’s what makes the world go round…everyone is different. Have a nice night. I will continue to believe as I wish. It’s called free will. You can continue to hate as it’s very obvious in your replies.
LSilvaxx
October 14, 2015 @ 5:43 am
I don’t hate. I’m one of those people who wish to move on from the entire CdP and ZD, Tiva thing but guess what? It’s not possible.
Sandi Brooks
October 14, 2015 @ 12:58 pm
No it is not, because that duo was sold as a big part of the NCIS appeal and package. They were heavilly used together to draw viewers and promote the show. CBS used the word TIVA in promos going back to 2005, and in much promo material since. Tiva cannot be seperated from NCIS anymore. It is written into the history, fabric and years worth of draw to the show. All the crowbarred, after the fact retroactive history GG shoves into new stories, (which is now inconsistant with the entirety of the show) cannot change that. It’s like Muldaur and Scully.
LSilvaxx
October 14, 2015 @ 1:48 pm
Not everyone bought Tiva tho. And that’s where the fans of this ship and the fans of the actress and her character have such a huge problem.
A m y
October 12, 2015 @ 10:37 pm
This is a crime show, not a soap opera. It’s certainly not a place for people to throw trash at actresses because of their scary obsessions. Wow, what a business that TV world!
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:47 pm
But it’s perfectly fine for those who liked Ziva to claim that Wickersham can’t act or that Harmon and Glasberg have the biggest egos in Hollywood?
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 5:39 pm
I liked Cote and the character Ziva. I have repeatedly stated that my problem is not with Emily Wickersham. It is with the character Bishop. In my opinion, that character is poorly written and doesn’t fit in this show. TPTB eliminated the important character that I refer to as the “strong woman.” I am not referring to a single character but to the type exemplified by Kate, Ziva and before them Sarah MacKenzie in JAG. This type of character was the beautiful “kick butt” lady who could take care of herself in the fight. The characters I named above were all trained to use fire arms and other weapons and could engage effectively in hand to hand combat.. They came to NCIS or JAG with the skill set. They could take care of themselves and others.
Don Bellisario, creator of JAG and NCIS, featured this type of lady. The current powers that be decided to eliminate this type and left a hole in the team. I have always wondered why they took a successful paradigm and changed it. The only thing I can come up with is TPTB don’t like strong women They seem to find guy shows with ladies in the background more to their liking. They are attempting to improve the show by rolling back to the pre-1960s days when men were strong and women were not. Just my opinion.
Sandi Brooks
October 14, 2015 @ 1:34 pm
The character of Bishop is poorly crafted, mostly useless to the team, and her presence in a supposedly elite team, especially with lousy field skills, defies logic. She is a one dimensional character, with no shown outside interests or back story. Dull as chalk.
EW has not demonstrated much range in making this limited character more believable. Her action scenes are hard to swallow, she is unskilled at comedic banter, and other than her perplexed face, we don’t see a range of emotions from her being demonstrated. Not her fault that the character is as boring as it is, but she doesn’t bring anything to it, either. And it is NOT just Ziva fans who feel that way, many non Ziva fans on twitter and facebook do not like Bishop, and don’t like watching EW play her. She may be perfect for some other roles and do them well, but this character on this team doesn’t make sense.
Andy71
October 20, 2015 @ 12:21 am
Should have known, a Bishop Basher. So much for your comments above, about how like Boy Scouts the Ziva fans are–to which I add, NOT. I truly love hypocrites. I enjoy Bishop because she is learning as she goes. I don’t have a dog in the fight because I liked Kate, I liked Ziva AND I like Bishop. What I don’t like is the venom and bashing that is done in the name of one character because people feel like they entitled too–just like you are doing. That is wrong in so many ways, sad that YOU can’t see that.
Sandi Brooks
October 13, 2015 @ 3:57 pm
It is a character based show, using the procedural format to create opportunities for character interactions. For many viewers, the Crime of the Week is secondary, and they do watch for characters. Last season did get pretty soapish, though, IMHO, with nearly the entire cast being assigned a Past Present or Future (or short term) Love Interest, or bed budy. Season 12 seemed like NCIS The Love Boat, as soapish as it has ever been.
LSilvaxx
October 13, 2015 @ 7:27 pm
It used to be soapish when the focus was on Tiva. Watching Ziva constantly abusing/making fun of Tony while he was written as the dumb fool who’s just taking all that like it’s normal. That was a weak Tony, sacrificed for someone who said would need to take a shower after talking to him. But oh well…
Sandi Brooks
October 13, 2015 @ 7:52 pm
Tony and Ziva used to banter, and were sometimes harsh, as the writers were schizophrenic in the writing, but there was an underlying affection. Talk about buffoon Tony? Far more so since Cote left, last week just one example, with little witty stuff for him to do anymore, since nobody else now there is as adept at timing comedic banter with Michael. He even said as much, pitch and return was hard for him after Cote left
But foolish or humiliated Tony has often been front and center since Cote left.
LSilvaxx
October 14, 2015 @ 5:50 pm
Seriously, if Ziva would have killed Tony you’d still defend her, right?
liz laughlin
October 15, 2015 @ 4:35 am
He’s coming up on NCIS-LA.
bbicecream
October 12, 2015 @ 10:28 pm
He belongs with Ziva.
A m y
October 12, 2015 @ 10:24 pm
Majority rules, people miss Ziva. Is there not enough to do in the retirement home that people sit online all day and attack anyone who misses Ziva or Cote? Time to find a life. Unhealthy hate obsessions for an actress and her character. Who cares? If you don’t like a person, don’t go near them…let alone, follow their name around the internet to say how much you hate them.
Lillian
October 15, 2015 @ 5:30 pm
Ha ha. Sad that Ziva lovers have to personally attack other fans. I bet their parents, grandparents are proud of their attitude toward people over a certain age. I’ve been accused of being a grandparent and belittled by an actual grandparent with a Beatles obsession. Hysterical.
Andy71
October 20, 2015 @ 12:10 am
Are you claiming to be the head of the “majority”? Hate to break it to you–you are not. However, making ageist remarks about people in retirement homes isn’t any way to make friends either. Your comments alone are certainly defining what type of person YOU are. SMDH
Ellen
October 12, 2015 @ 10:20 pm
Hi Matt and Jessa, as a survivor of abuse, I find flippant comments claiming that Ziva was abusive to Tony to be incredibly offensive in that they minimize real abuse and think such posts should either be hidden or banned. It’s one thing to dislike a character and a ship, but that takes thing a step too far. Thanks.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:24 pm
So you believe that people should be encouraged to belittle their partner at every turn or to point a loaded weapon at them in anger – because that doesn’t equate to real abuse?
Abuse is far more than mere bruises.
Amy
October 12, 2015 @ 10:36 pm
Zoe did that in the squad room. If that’s the case, none of these women are meant for Tony. This is a crime show, people!
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 5:42 pm
Yes it is but Bellisario, it’s creator, said that what set this show apart from other forensic shows was the interrelationships between the characters and the humor both of which have fallen short as of late.
Deano
October 12, 2015 @ 10:15 pm
Everything before Kate’s murder was real. Everything after was McGee’s books. Tony ends up with Kate like the flashback a few seasons ago. That was reality. Twist ending…
Nena
October 12, 2015 @ 9:08 pm
I hate Ziva. Wish they’d killed the witch off, in fact I hope they still do. The horrible fake Israeli accent was bad enough, but add to that the fact that Cote de Pablo couldn’t act her way out of a paper sack and it was almost enough to get me to stop watching. Especially the last two years when she got so full of herself and thought she was going to take over the entire show. Guess they showed you WITCH. She’ll never be on the show again thank goodness, and considering how badly her career has TANKED (one B movie, one failed mini-series) since she walked off I hope she has a back up plan for her retirement years. Arrogant people always get what’s coming to them and now de Pablo is reaping what she sowed. GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH. Vote on that zbots.
LSilvaxx
October 12, 2015 @ 9:39 pm
Wow. Seeing Cote as either a good or a bad actress is a personal opinion. For some she’s good, for some she’s not. I think it’s ok if you don’t like her. I do have some issues with her myself but what you wrote is just disgusting and awful. And I would never say that I hate her, or Ziva. You don’t know Cote in real life (don’t you?), so you cannot say she’s so “evil”. You made obversations of her appearances, interviews, acting jobs and formed your own impressions. But it doesn’t mean it’s a fact. You could have worded your opinion different. My point is: stop focusing on her if you have so many problems with her.
Amy
October 12, 2015 @ 10:32 pm
It’s a shame you all have become so unhealthy obsessed with her that there’s people under alts wishing these horrible things on an actress. If you simply don’t like someone, you don’t follow their every article, move, breath to belittle them as some of you do to Cote. Didn’t your parents teach you that if you don’t like someone, stay away? Why don’t you do yourself a favor and stay off from belitting fans of Cote? It’s called being a grown up.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:43 pm
Where are the fans of Cote? There is only evidence of people wanting Ziva back. Fans of de Pablo would be eagerly hunting out what she is doing next, anticipating seeing her flex her acting muscles in new and different roles. Viewers fled from ‘The Dovekeepers’, sadly, and very few are interested that she is in the upcoming ‘The 33’.
I’ll sit through, and enjoy, anything that MY favorite actors do, even as I might be acknowledging how awful it is.
There is nothing wrong with liking and missing Ziva/de Pablo, but when someone moves on in life – just like when someone dies – you can either wallow in your own misery or get on with life and accept the changes.
I don’t have an unhealthy obsession with de Pablo, I have an unhealthy obsession with NCIS, but anywhere I go to read about NCIS – and Nichols tweeted about this item – I run into the same few lamenting Ziva’s departure.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 6:15 pm
I watched “The Dovekeepers” and had previously read the book. The main problem that I saw was the horrible adaptation from the book to the small screen. It was a cut and paste job.
I’m sure that even successful actors have been involved in productions that they would like to forget about. I liked Mel Gibson in The Patriot and many other movies but a friend and I watched one of his early movies from 1979, Tim. We both thought it was pretty awful. Paul Newman acted in a movie in 1954 called The Silver Chalice. It earned a 4.5 out of 10 rating at IMDb. It happens.
LSilvaxx
October 13, 2015 @ 5:21 am
What’s your problem? I said Nena’s post was disgusting. Stop accusing me of those things.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 5:46 pm
Stalker mentality.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 5:44 pm
When you point your finger at CdP, three fingers are pointing back at you
Lillian
October 15, 2015 @ 5:27 pm
See, now this is a hate post directed at the actress. It’s very clear. Please keep this in mind when most of us argue against Ziva that we are not hating on Cote as well. I hate Ziva. To be honest, I’m indifferent toward Cote.
annsan
October 12, 2015 @ 9:06 pm
Laughing at all the tiva shippers claiming one true love….
per MW, Tony and ziva never were and never were going to be.
Being that the ONLY cast member to be pro-tiva ship was cote, that alone says a lot.
This article is nothing more but click bait and feeding into the only NCIS fans who are loyal to this ziva heavy site.
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 9:18 pm
So why did you bother?
annsan
October 12, 2015 @ 9:38 pm
Given some of your posts in this thread, the same question applies to you….why did you bother?
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 6:14 pm
You’re the one that called it a Ziva heavy fan site. Sounds like you don’t like this site . So, why do you bother? Are you looking for a site to release the pent up vitriol?
I like this site and I enjoy expressing my opinions about NCIS. I actually liked episode 2 of this season and said so.
annsan
October 14, 2015 @ 11:40 pm
Like this site why? Because it’s one of the few that choose to not let the idea of ziva fade to black?
And no there’s no ‘pent up vitriol’. Just an eyeroll over the desperation to get site hits so of course there’s a poll and ziva must be mentioned. oh and utter disgust at the tiva fanatics who heaped negative idiocy on Marisol Nichols after she tweeted a link to the poll. It’s that behavior, continuing two years after the actress quit, that leads to the idea that sites like this have to quit poking the ziva fanatics.
Jean-charles Tillmann
October 12, 2015 @ 8:42 pm
All this Zoe, Jeanne, discussion is not what Tony deserve. Why you add not Bishop in this list. Then the hell team is complete. Only Ziva belong to Tony, and by the way #NoZivaNoNCIS.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:27 pm
You have that the wrong way around: No NCIS = No Ziva.
NCIS existed before Ziva was even thought of and continues on its merry way without her. If you don’t enjoy, then don’t watch any more, but trying to spoil it for those who still enjoy it is beyond petty.
Lisa/Vollisar
October 12, 2015 @ 7:59 pm
Tony and Ziva were written for each other. Mark Harmon and Gary Glasberg worked really hard to only occasionally show Michael & Cote’s hot chemistry. Even though they cut Tiva scenes and pushed the ambiguous coworker relationship, they couldn’t fool the audience. The cries for Ziva to return just keep growing. I see so many tweets, and it goes far beyond Cote’s Army and Bring Back Cote groups. CBS and NCIS need to get Cote back and finish Tony and Ziva’s beautiful story! Why are Harmon and Glasberg so afraid of Tiva?
LSilvaxx
October 12, 2015 @ 9:25 pm
Gosh are you serious? Harmon is just an executive producer. Glasberg and the writers are resonsible for what happened between Tony and Ziva. Cote herself even said that Harmon was fighting for Tiva moments. You’re just one of those haters who blame him for everything. Michael compared Tiva to Herpes once. Cote wants Tiva to happen, Michael doesn’t.
annsan
October 12, 2015 @ 9:41 pm
The better question is – why do tiva fans think they are entitled to having THEIR ship played out and made canon when the many other fans who ship other couples are perfectly happy to have their favorite couples remain fanon.
DianeD
October 14, 2015 @ 10:18 pm
Because the show actively told you to feel that way? The show completed manipulated the audience through tiva – they never had the balls to completely go through with it and yet strung the audience along by suggesting that it was eventually going to happen. we’re not entitled, we’re frustrated.
annsan
October 14, 2015 @ 11:36 pm
Manipulated? no…the only time period on the show that actively tried to play tiva was the shane brennan era when ziva was pushed forward and cdp played a romantic tiva. MW never played that way.
Frustration is the latest claim huh? Cuz most of MW’s interviews flat out stated that he was against the whole idea of tiva happening on the show. So ‘balls’ had nothing to do with it. Not when the cast and way more fans than tiva fanatics want to admit to were against the idea of a canon pairing.
The stringing along was all in the minds of shippers who chose to see each scene as tiva related and showing their fanon pairing growing closer.
LSilvaxx
October 16, 2015 @ 7:19 pm
“We’re frustrated” – about a tv show? The world has many serious problems these days and certain people = aka Ziva/Tiva/CdP fans act like this is the most important thing. Wow
emma miller
October 12, 2015 @ 7:55 pm
For this “poll” to be legitimate only one vote should be allowed from an IP address. None of this voting from every piece of electronic equipment in the house then clearing the cookies and voting again and again and again and … Well, you get the picture as to what is happening.
“Our experience has shown us that in the excitement of great popular elections, … frauds will be committed, if a chance is given for them.” – Richard Henry Dana, Jr., The Times, London, August 1859
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 8:19 pm
That is true but this poll serves it’s purpose, which is to fan the flames. Some of us like to talk about the show. Others are here to get out their anger and call people names. To set up a scientific poll would be too costly and most people don’t care about the truth anyway. As for me, I only voted once,.
Crystal Miller
October 12, 2015 @ 6:37 pm
Ziva is the only one for Tony. Tony was constantly finding out who she was emailing, talking to, vacationing with and going to exercise class with. He never went out of his way to do this with any of the others…because he did not care enough too IMO.
Eleanor S
October 12, 2015 @ 6:26 pm
Neither Jeanne or Zoe are the one for Tony. Tony dismissed them out of his life and never went after them. Ziva is the one for Tony.
Marie H
October 12, 2015 @ 6:20 pm
Ziva is the one for Tony. As another one commented…even EJ knew Ziva was the one for Tony and Wendy alluded to it and He never thought of Zoe in over 10 years and Jeanne is still out to cause him harm..IMO.
Lisa Liscoumb
October 12, 2015 @ 9:56 pm
It was interesting that every guest character had to stop whatever they were doing, sometimes in the middle of working on the case, to tell the characters – and the audience – that they were obviously made for each other. Shouldn’t that have been evident, if it were actually the case?
And how do you know that Jeanne is “still out to cause him harm”? Are you one of the writers? Perhaps she is there to give him the closure he needs so that he can move on with his life and finally commit to Zoe.
Amy
October 12, 2015 @ 10:29 pm
Isn’t it fun to see you on every post attacking whoever misses Ziva?
Lisa Liscoumb
October 13, 2015 @ 1:23 am
Every post? I think I’ve commented on three on this article. You , on the other hand, seem to feel it’s your job to tell off anyone who doesn’t adore Ziva and think that the sun, moon, and stars revolve around her.
And at least I don’t sign in as a guest so I can hide my identity. I love the smell of dirty socks…
chris
October 13, 2015 @ 2:08 am
At least she contributes to the discussion. All you’ve done is insult people.
Apparently you have nothing better to do with your life than go to every site that mentions ziva to belittle people with a different opinion.
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Alex
October 12, 2015 @ 6:18 pm
How is this even a question?
Beverly
October 12, 2015 @ 5:49 pm
I think that the NCIS folks will leave the Ziva carrot hanging out there until the very last episode when they will show her for approximately 30 seconds. Ziva and Tony at the very least need to see each other again. At the very best let them take things one step further. lol
annsan
October 14, 2015 @ 11:45 pm
per MW there was no such thing as ziva/tony save in the minds of fans who chose to see the pairing.
as far as them taking ‘things one step further’ fanfic appears to be your only option for that, as it should be
Cheryl Gress
October 12, 2015 @ 5:39 pm
Ziva is the one for Tony. Jeanne falsely accused him of murder so I don’t see him with her. Zoe he left and never thought about he saw her….she is just there..convenient. IMO he would drop her when Ziva returns.
LSilvaxx
October 12, 2015 @ 9:30 pm
Ziva once accuse Tony of murder, too. Funny how people tend to forget about that. Or even say she the one for him. Violance in a relationship is not love.
Amy
October 12, 2015 @ 10:26 pm
It’s interesting that you’re all over saying that Jeanne isn’t violent then when she did the same. Listen to your own advice, LSilva. Tsk Tsk,
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:29 pm
I missed the episode where Jeanne threw Tony to the ground and pointed a loaded gun at him.
bbicecream
October 12, 2015 @ 10:30 pm
How do you k now it was loaded?
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:34 pm
Attempting to send someone to prison isn’t violence.
Sandi Brooks
October 14, 2015 @ 1:03 pm
Not directly. The violence would have been what happens to an ex cop once they got to prison. Jeanne could technically keep her hands clean and let inmates do her dirty work.
annsan
October 14, 2015 @ 11:48 pm
one needs contacts for that…something Jeanne wouldn’t have. And by the way normally ex cops are not put with general population
Lisa Liscoumb
October 13, 2015 @ 1:27 am
How did Tony know it wasn’t?
And, seriously, are you really trying to argue that Ziva would have pointed an unloaded gun at someone? That she was only trying to scare him?
Lisa Liscoumb
October 13, 2015 @ 1:27 am
How did Tony know it wasn’t?
And, seriously, are you really trying to argue that Ziva would have pointed an unloaded gun at someone? That she was only trying to scare him?
annsan
October 13, 2015 @ 3:43 am
reaching…reaching horribly for justification
bbicecream
October 12, 2015 @ 10:32 pm
Ziva said it in anger, Janne pressed charges. Big difference.
annsan
October 13, 2015 @ 3:43 am
Jeanne could not ‘press charges’
the FBI talked to her as a ‘witness’. She said what she ‘saw’.
LSilvaxx
October 13, 2015 @ 5:06 am
Ziva is a professional trained… from someone like this you expect them to be in charge of their emotions but she wasn’t. And that scene was just one of example of Ziva being “angry” and abusing someone in some way or another.
LSilvaxx
October 13, 2015 @ 5:04 am
I don’t recall Jeanne ever using violance but I wasn’t too fond of her. I never said I prefered one more than the other. I was just stating that it’s wrong to say Jeanne was bad when Ziva wasn’t any better. Get the point Amy.
Lisa Liscoumb
October 12, 2015 @ 10:01 pm
Actually Ziva did much worse. She not only accused him of murdering Rivkin because he was jealous, she insisted he be hauled before Mossad to “answer for his crimes”, convinced Gibbs to allow him to be escorted in a car alone with two Mossad operatives, saying she and her father were the only ones sanctioned to kill Tony, and then assaulted him when things didn’t go her way in the interrogation room, knocking him to the ground by hitting his injured shoulder, shoving a loaded gun in his face and thigh (right about where the main artery runs, btw, so that if she had shot, he would have bled out almost instantly) and saying that the wrong man died and maybe she should fix that mistake.
But I guess that was just foreplay because she’s his twoo wuv.
Amy
October 12, 2015 @ 10:28 pm
Do you just go around to every site that mentions Ziva and explode? It’s getting obsessive. Who cares if people miss a fictional character. They’re choice, not yours. Pretty sure you aren’t the next world leader. Find a hobby.
Lisa Liscoumb
October 13, 2015 @ 1:18 am
How would you know know where and what I post, unless you are also going to those sites, and reading what I post? Pot, meet kettle – maybe you should look in a mirror when you call someone “obsessive”.
bbicecream
October 12, 2015 @ 10:30 pm
She may have accused him but Jeanne was pressing charges. Glad that psycho is gone.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:33 pm
Ziva never bothered with any hangups about justice or the law – dragging Tony off “to meet the father in law” was her equivalent of pressing charges.
Marianne Gibson
October 12, 2015 @ 11:40 pm
Ziva didn’t insist he be brought before her Father. Her father did that all on his own. get the story right.
Lee
October 13, 2015 @ 7:41 am
Silly me, it’s the Ziva fans who reckon she took him to meet the father in law…
Marianne Gibson
October 13, 2015 @ 2:35 pm
Father -in-law? Still don’t have the story straight but sarcasm suits you well.
Sandi Brooks
October 14, 2015 @ 1:01 pm
It was Director Vance who decided to have Tony come to Israel and meet with Eli.
Brooklyn Aggie
October 12, 2015 @ 5:30 pm
Like EJ said Ziva get’s you Tony. He burn Jeanne’s letter and stayed with the team. He turned Rota down too. He left Philadelphia with out a back ward glance to Zoe and got engaged to Wendy. Wendy told Tony to tell her ….the her was Ziva. My family, friends and I agree that Ziva is the one for Tony.
Lisa Liscoumb
October 12, 2015 @ 10:03 pm
Yup, everyone seem ed to have had to stop what they were doing and tell Tony and Ziva how perfect they were for each other in season 10.
And he turned Rota down because Gibbs wasn’t at 100% and he couldn’t leave the rest of the team like that. In fact, it could be argued that he turned Rota down because he was falling in love with Jeanne at that point. He did mention the Frog mission when he was talking to Jenny about Rota, and she asked him if he was in too deep, to which he hesitated and then said no.
Laura Jana
October 12, 2015 @ 5:24 pm
Ziva is the best and the one that Tony truly loved… Other ones are just some fake superficial dolls…
Alice
October 12, 2015 @ 5:07 pm
I do want to see Tony with Ziva! They had an amazing chemestry he doesn’t have with Jeanne or Zoe!
Limonite
October 12, 2015 @ 4:54 pm
Ziva, and only Ziva. I don’t know if they’re going to play the “romance” card with Jeanne, but if they do, it’s NOT going to work out. Just look at what happened with the “thing” Tony had with Zoe (a.k.a. the bad Ziva copy). It was painful to see those two playing a romantic couple. Michael Weatherly was right when he made that dvd commentary for season 9; putting Tony with a female that’s NOT Ziva is just weird, and we saw that with Zoe.
Ellen
October 12, 2015 @ 4:48 pm
Not to nitpick, but Tony only worked in Philly for 9 months so Zoe has actually known him for the shortest amount of time. I agree that Jeanne doesn’t know the REAL Tony. If Tony rides off into the sunset with anyone, I want it to be Ziva. I loved Ziva and Tiva and I would love to see that story come full circle for both characters.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 3:47 pm
If we’ve got to have a love life for Tony to round out the character, then make it with Zoe, we have met her and all we need are slight references to her and the very occasional, brief appearance. In short make his love life a very much background story. Tony is not the first and won’t be the last person, real or imaginary, to fall in love with someone from his past having met up many years later.
Tony and Ziva might have worked on the in-the-background basis – except that the Tiva fans wanted that to be the story, with the crimes as background – but what blew it was that Ziva was never written in a way that showed either affection or respect for Tony, making a relationship between them totally unbelievable. Tony is far too intelligent to get involved with a woman as unstable and unreliable as Ziva.
Nor does the return of Jeanne have to actually be related to Tony’s love life, above and beyond being the catalyst for decisions. After all the return of Colonel Mann didn’t see Gibbs’ romance with her rekindled.
DZkat71
October 12, 2015 @ 5:32 pm
Exactly. Very well said.
Lisa Liscoumb
October 12, 2015 @ 10:05 pm
Well said, Lee. And I agree – I’m actually hoping that Jeanne coming back ISN’T as a push to rekindle the romance. I think there’s too much bad history between them for them to make a go of it. I’m hoping she’s coming back so that she and Tony can finally talk honestly, start to forgive each other, and start to heal.
Sandi Brooks
October 12, 2015 @ 3:41 pm
Jeanne only really knew Show Tony, the face he chose to show her. She never experienced any of his other sides. She was in love with a fake persona, Tony DiNardo. And lets not forget what a crappy time Jeannes presence was for the team. Tony often gone, with no backup on related Frog work for Jen, lying to the team, leaving them shorthanded. Ziva left to believe Tony’s plaque was back, sick with worry about him. And the ultimate JEANNES NOT GIRLFRIEND material: Jeanne really tried to set him up for a murder she knew he didn’t commit: not a quality one looks for in a potential mate.
And the crowbarred, doesnt fit Zoe retroactive insertion into series history? She’s a placekeeper bedbuddy. Convenient and willing in Tony’s lonliness.
She was not far away all these years. He never cared enough to road trip to Philly or even phone her, yet crossed the world for Ziva and told her he couldn’t live without her. And Ziva and SR had a VERY warm relationship, she could noticably calm Tony when Sr was there making him anxious. Sr loved Ziva, and Ziva loved him. But she also knew how nervious Tony got hwen Sr came around. I suspect a Tiva reunion hanging out there to use toward the end of show, or end of Tony’s time on series, whichever comes first. It was MW and CdP who were trotted out together for eight years to promote the show, and the promotion by show of the duo THEY referred to as TIVA, goes back to 2005. NCIS has even been dangling the Ziva carrot off and on these past two years, incl season finale. This is who they used to sell the show, and their fans bought the product they promoted for eight years. If they didnt plan to deliver TIVA, they shouldn’t have been pushing it. Cotes willing, so lets see how long it takes…..
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 3:54 pm
NCIS and CBS have NOT been “dangling the Ziva carrot” in the slightest since she left. Ziva gets mentioned on click-bait media sites and ‘fans’ interpret every single spoiler as pointing to her and start rumors among themselves; whilst I doubt that anyone actually connected to the show even considers her when divulging such spoilers.
All the latest stuff about Tony’s love life could equally point to a great revelation that Gibbs is the constant in his life, just as much as it could point to Ziva.
Do I believe that it is actually about either? No.
Sandi Brooks
October 12, 2015 @ 4:13 pm
Please lets not get the TIBBS shippers started.
Gibbs has stagnatted Tony and lead him to feel he cant get Gibbs acceptance unless GIBBS signs off on whomever he wants to be involved with. Gibbs signed off on Zoe, but not Ziva as a romantic interest. Tony has always been torn between Gibbs as a surrogate dad and his heart leading in other directions.
And yes, even the NCIS FB site implied Ziva might be a victim in the season finale promos before Dorney was the known victim. They have indeed used the Ziva carrot.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:55 pm
What’s wrong with the Tibbs shippers, or the McNozzo shippers or the Gabby shippers? You know, the fans that quietly enjoy their ‘ships’ in their own little corner of fandom without clamoring for it to be onscreen to upset all the other viewers.
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Is your boss your surrogate Dad?
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The only people who saw any implication that Ziva might be a victim in the last season finale, are the ones who assume that every single hint or spoiler for the show relates to a character that left two years ago.
Sandi Brooks
October 14, 2015 @ 1:14 pm
Nothing is wrong, but it is not consistent with the body alngauge and actions of the actors. Tony and Ziva were always in each others personal space, sharing food, hovering near and over each other, dressed and moving in sync. Look at old shows: at times they were like marionettes on the same controller, walking absolutely in sync. The colors they wore, the patterns were also synchronized. Look at Underscovers, for example, both had vertical cable patterns. These are all storytelling devices to show current or intended coupledom. Nobody else on Team Gibbs was ever shown that way with Tony. And years of CBS promo material referencing TIVA using that word, going back to 2005,, including a big video early summer after S10 which showed the word TIVA and said “Ziva sings it, Tony Brings it” along with clips of them together. It is not unreasonable or out of line for Tiva shippers to whom the pairing was actually pushed and promoted by the show, to want a payoff.
LSilvaxx
October 14, 2015 @ 5:45 pm
Problem is that the writers don’t write the show for the “shippers” only. They write for all and again: Not everyone is a Tiva shipper! So hard to understand?
LSilvaxx
October 14, 2015 @ 5:44 pm
Cote promoting her mini series: talks about NCIS/Tiva all the time. It’s oh so bad for the show to somehow throw Ziva into (something her fans scream for but when it happens they’re screaming even more because it’s not what they want lol) but when de Pablo is using NCIS/Tiva all the time it’s ok? Sure sure
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 7:52 pm
On the season 11 DVD voice over for Past, Present and Future, the writers, Scott Williams, Gina Lucita Monreal and the director, James Whitmore Jr said that for 8 seasons, the Tony and Ziva relationship “drove the show.” I don’t remember who said the words but the others agreed. Wow! can you believe that? What do they know about NCIS? The nerve of those guys! That voice over is enough to make some of the posters choke on their milk and graham crackers.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 11:01 pm
Whitmore Jnr said it, and surprised me with how out of touch he was.
Yes, the two writers agreed with him, but Weatherly didn’t.
chris
October 13, 2015 @ 2:53 am
Actually, Jeanne got to see the real Tony. The only part that was wrong was the last name.
The one time ziva saw the real Tony, she didn’t like. She thought it was making her look bad. She told him he was nothing more than the class clown and that was all she would accept from him.
Sandi Brooks
October 13, 2015 @ 3:08 pm
No, Tony only showed the sides of himself needed to sell the part. Bull pen annoyer and player Tony were in hiding for the op. As to the convo in False Witness, one of many many interactions between two very guarded people who both used masks for the faces they presented to the world, you have mischaracterized the discission. Ziva neved said that was ALL she thought Tony was, but they always spoke to each other in code, in a way only they “got” each other:
Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo: Maybe instead of having a mid-life crisis. I’m having a mid-life crazy.
Ziva David: Look, you are not crazy, okay? You are just… growing up. And some lessons are more painful as we grow older when the risk is higher. But… you need to find *balance*. And yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, you need to treat people more respectfully, especially when it comes to matters of the heart. You need to be who you are.
Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo: Who am I?
Ziva David: You are… Tony DiNozzo. The class clown. That is why we love you.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 8:34 pm
I loved that scene.
Lillian
October 15, 2015 @ 5:09 pm
She only saw him as a clown, which is why she didn’t see the real him. She didn’t respect his experience and skill as an agent. Called him dead weight. No, Jeanne saw the real Tony, the one he couldn’t show Ziva, because she didn’t want to see him.
chris
October 12, 2015 @ 2:22 pm
How about a big fat “who cares” for Tony’s love life.
I would much rather see him work as an agent and leader, than worry about who he’s shackling up with this week.
Talk about an insult to the actor if that’s all he’s there for!
Mel
October 12, 2015 @ 3:01 pm
*This* times a million! Stop wasting Michael Weatherly’s talent.
DZkat71
October 12, 2015 @ 5:31 pm
I so agree. Stop with all the ‘tiva’ or any of it and get back to catching bad guys.
Amy
October 12, 2015 @ 10:28 pm
Same reason you should all stop with Tibbs, lol.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:31 pm
People don’t post all over the internet demanding Tibbs, or McNozzo or Gabby.
Fans of those ships take what they are given by the show and play happily in their own sandboxes without trying to turn the show into something that others don’t enjoy.
Sandi Brooks
October 13, 2015 @ 9:04 pm
Tony was a strong character for Ziva, planned executed Somalia op. He has now, post Ziva, been reduced to fretting over cats, casseroles, colonics, goldfish, royal titles and bread baking. Sorry, Ziva isn’t around to blame for current buffoon Tony the show has been writing.
Helen Jourde
October 12, 2015 @ 11:44 am
Cote shot herself in the foot when she walked out the way she did. I don’t think TPTB would ever trust her again. That being said, TIVA was frequently hinted but never fully established in canon. Fans filled in what they wanted in their imaginations.
Tony has matured some over the years. He may be ready to settle down with someone who is grounded and established in her own right. He doesn’t need turmoil in this relationship; instead, he needs someone who understands the nature of his work and its stresses. I think that Zoe fits that need.
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 4:17 am
To even name the actress who shall not be named is asking for a barrage of nastiness from those who hate Cote de Pablo but here goes. While I don’t think TPTB want to bring her back, I’m sure they know that it could help their sagging live numbers. Season 13 has live numbers that most closely resemble season 6. Yes, you can say that viewing habits have changed but NCIS was being recorded to view later on VCRs. during season 6. Those numbers were not tabulated. For many, many viewers Tiva was the real deal and remains so. The writers wrote it that way. This is not something the fans made up.
Nena
October 12, 2015 @ 11:52 am
They had 22 million viewers after the live/7 day totals, out performing the new hit show Empire. That is NOT sagging numbers. Still the #1 drama in the WORLD. But keep on living in your little delusional Ziva worshipping world. She’s gone, and they will never bring her back.
Karen Padecky
October 12, 2015 @ 2:07 pm
I agree with you..what is Liz Laughlin talking about..must be dillusional
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 7:37 pm
Name calling should have been left behind long ago. Even kinder-gardeners know that it is not nice. And can you prove to me that you exist? or are you just a nasty delusion? If you exist, have a nice day.
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 7:33 pm
In the past, NCIS live numbers exceeded 22 million and that was without counting people who recorded the show on a VCR and watched later. Live +7 and live numbers are not comparable. You can compare old live numbers to the current live numbers. When you do that, you can see that the current live number for the first 3 episodes of season 13 average 17.19 million. Compare that to season 12 live for the first three episodes average 18.22 million. Then compare season 13 to season 6 live number first 3 episodes average of 17.26 million. Now this is pretty early in the season. Season 13 may pick up.on the live numbers as time goes on..
There is difference between what I’m looking at and what you are looking at. What you are looking at has nothing to compare to before Nielsen started doing live +7. In an article online posted Sept 17, 2014.at “by the numbers” announced that CBS would now be posting live+7 for 2014-2015. This was done to try to account for non traditional viewing habits–streaming and DVR. In other words, that is when CBS started using live+7–season 12. Live +7 is new. Live numbers are still being produced but can only be compared to other live numbers.
As far as delusional is concerned. Can you prove to me that you even exist?
Nena
October 12, 2015 @ 9:24 pm
LMAO. Thanks for proving my point.
liz laughlin
October 14, 2015 @ 9:29 am
How did I prove your point? I have been talking about live numbers and you have bee talking about live+7. They are not the same. The live numbers have been dropping since season season 11. Also, the 18-49 demo has been dropping since season season 8.
season 8 demo 4.0
season 9 demo 3.8
season 10 demo 3.3
season 11 demo 2.8
season 12 demo 2.43
season 13 episodes 1-3 demo 2.23
The 18-49 demo is important because younger people spend more money than older people. CBS makes money when they sell advertisements. Sponsors want to see a strong 18-49 demo.They don’t make money because tight wads like me watch. A younger audience would likely bring in more bucks for the sponsors and hence for CBS. (They also make money selling the show abroad and selling to companies who stream it). The falling demo shows that NCIS has an aging audience.
CBS has Big Bang Theory which currently has 4.04 in the demo.You brought up Empire on Fox. It currently has a 5.76 demo. ABC has 5 shows that currently beat NCIS in the demo. AMC has Walking Dead 7.36 and Fear Walking Dead 4.9. HBO’s Game of Thrones currently has 3.52 in the demo.
Now, don’t get me wrong, except for CBS’s Big Bang Theory, I don’t like these shows. They appeal more to the younger crowd. NCIS has trouble drawing younger viewers. It’s big viewership includes a lot of old fogies like me but not a lot of those lucrative young people. Those big spenders are watching other shows.
Lisa Liscoumb
October 12, 2015 @ 10:12 pm
So I guess it’s Ziva and Tony’s fault that live viewing numbers have gone down about the same amount for most network shows?
The fact is – and numerous articles have said this – people are watching television in different ways. So yes, compare Live to Live, but look at all shows, not just NCIS.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 7:49 pm
How can Tony and Ziva be responsible? They are fictional characters. If there is any responsibility, it lies with real life people who make decisions–like the executives, the show runner, and writers and the fans who watch. It may be that this show has just run out of ideas or I could be wrong and it’s better than it ever was. People may just not like it well enough now to make the effort to watch it live. There are all kinds of possibilities for why the live numbers are going down hill. All I know is that the live numbers are going down hill. That is an actual factual fact. All I can do is give my opinion.
Lee
October 12, 2015 @ 10:59 pm
The live+7 numbers have been available since season 10, and have remained broadly similar since then. As yet there is little evidence that the viewers appetite for the show is tailing off, and considering its age, that’s pretty reasonable.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 7:37 pm
Can you tell me where I can get the Live+7 numbers ? I tried to find them but was not successful. Particularly the ones from season 10 forward.
chris
October 12, 2015 @ 2:19 pm
Nobody hates Cote de Pablo. People may not be ziva fans, but that doesn’t carry over to the actress. One is a pretend person, the other is real. In order to truly hate someone, you need to know them first. I have never met Cote, so I have no hatred for her.
The only people who can’t or don’t understand the difference are the ziva fans. I personally don’t believe Cote has many fans. All you guys want her to fail at her plans and dreams for the future so she has no other choice but to crawl back to CBS and beg for her job back. All to satisfy something that is lacking in your life.
It really is sad.
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 6:22 pm
“Nobody hates Cote de Pablo.” When you use the word “nobody”, you mean no one, not anyone. If anyone in the world hates her then your opener is incorrect.
I wish I had a dollar for every post on this site and others that focused on what a terrible actress and despicable human being CdP was. This was toned down in the last year when it was pointed out that CdP was no longer on the show and this was sicko. The haters of CdP and Ziva were essentially “tilting at windmills.” And I definitely know that there is a difference between CdP and the character she played.
Your last paragraph suggests, with no indication that it is your opinion, that I or other fans wish for CdP to fail is pathetic. Don’t give up your day job to become a psychic or mind reader. You lack the skills..
chris
October 13, 2015 @ 1:14 am
So you’re not spending all day everyday on various sites begging for ziva to come back? Not caring what the actress wants to do with her life?
It’s sad and pathetic and no wonder she wants nothing to do with her “fans”, a term I use very loosely.
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 7:28 pm
Nope. I have a job to go to and other things that I have to tend to.
chris
October 13, 2015 @ 2:10 am
Theiy’re! Take that grammar police!
liz laughlin
October 13, 2015 @ 6:43 pm
Silly boy (or girl)!
liz laughlin
October 12, 2015 @ 4:17 am
To even name the actress who shall not be named is asking for a barrage of nastiness from those who hate Cote de Pablo but here goes. While I don’t think TPTB want to bring her back, I’m sure they know that it could help their sagging live numbers. Season 13 has live numbers that most closely resemble season 6. Yes, you can say that viewing habits have changed but NCIS was being recorded to view later on VCRs. during season 6. Those numbers were not tabulated. For many, many viewers Tiva was the real deal and remains so. The writers wrote it that way. This is not something the fans made up.