TNT’s ‘Dallas’ season 3 debate: The summer / winter struggle
Is it a smart move or not to air new episodes of cable series against broadcast competition? This is a question that is certainly worth exploring, especially in the context of a series that sits firmly on the bubble as a part of this experiment: TNT’s “Dallas.”
As you recall, the network premiered the revival of the popular primetime soap last summer, and the ratings ranged between fantastic (for the premiere) and still pretty great (for the finale). Not only were the ten episodes enough to convince the network to renew the series, but they decided to air the 15 episodes in the winter / spring, that way viewers would not have to sit around and wait very long to see more of John Ross, Bobby, and the rest of the cast. In theory, this was a pretty smart move, and thanks to the filming schedule they were able to craft a story around the tragic passing of Larry Hagman.
However, the result of airing against other network shows led to some much lower ratings. While “The Voice,” “The Bachelor” (in the earlier months), and “Dancing with the Stars” were not identical audiences, they did cause some trouble for the show at times. The same goes for the 10:00 p.m. competitors “Hawaii Five-0” and “Castle,” which we assume are probably sharing quite a few viewers with the soap given that they are mostly older audiences, and the two shows certainly have a nostalgic feel to them.
Even with lower ratings, one advantage to keeping “Dallas” on in part during the winter months is simple: more promotion. TNT cannot possibly just air new programming in the summer and forget about the rest of the year, since eventually that will lead to summer erosion, as well. Who knows? The network may be getting great DVR numbers, but the live viewers for both “Dallas” and “Southland” (which is a little more likely to be canceled) suffer in part thanks to the time of year in which they air.
At the end of the day, we feel that the “Dallas” situation will unfold as follows: If TNT cancels the show, there will probably be fury from fans and will blame over it airing in the winter; however, if it is renewed, we have a feeling that most fans won’t care what the ratings are so long as they are getting new episodes.
What’s your take on this “Dallas” debate, and do you think that the show should stay permanently in the summer? If you want to look at what you could expect if the show is renewed, be sure to visit the link here.
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Betty
April 29, 2013 @ 7:42 am
I love to watch Dallas. Still look at the old series. Hope it continue.
Bob
April 29, 2013 @ 2:58 am
The show is awesome and should be back. Not having more seasons would be criminal. The show is getting its legs with the new characters. Maybe all they need is a different night to air?? No matter where they put the show, I will watch.
Geo. B.
April 26, 2013 @ 8:51 pm
I am an original Dallas fan and while I greatly enjoyed the original with J.R.’s schemes the new Dallas is also great. Wouldn’t miss it for a minute, in fact I DVR it when I can not watch it and also my daughter is now watching the show. TNT must give Dallas a season number 3 and lets see if John Ross can fill the void. Also the writers and directors for the new Dallas are great and the story lines are unbelievable. I also enjoyed seeing the old cast appearing from time to time on the show, this brought back fond memories and they should continue with that idea. When ever they,TNT, air it I will be there.
Beaugard Stevens
April 26, 2013 @ 8:00 pm
The show was terrible this year, that’s why it didn’t do well, it had nothing to do with airing it in Winter.
John
April 26, 2013 @ 5:08 pm
Dallas has restored my faith in television. Excellent writing, directing, and acting – not to mention one heck of a story line. The old show had gotten “tired” by the end of the line in 1991, but the current one goes at a break neck pace, and you can’t miss a second of it. KEEP IT ON, TNT!!!!!!!!!!
Lynn
April 26, 2013 @ 12:28 am
It is unbelievable how great this show is! I watched it in the beginning and it is even better now! Keep the episodes coming! Please don’t let us down!
Ian g uk
April 25, 2013 @ 9:33 pm
Keep it going, best yet, don’t leave us in middle of a great story line
Travis
April 25, 2013 @ 5:24 pm
I will watch Dallas anytime they put it on! Bring on season 3!
Lori
April 25, 2013 @ 12:26 am
I want dallas to come back. I don’t care when it comes back,
LMFP4LIFE
April 24, 2013 @ 5:35 pm
I agree..I will watch it no matter when it is on…PLEASE RENEW DALLAS!!!
Amelia Bowman
April 24, 2013 @ 2:13 am
We love dallastnt we loved the original series and now all 28 members of my family gather on monday evening to watch Keep dallas rollin on>>make season 3.. 24 episodes minimum
AJConn52
April 23, 2013 @ 10:23 pm
Definitely have a Season 3 (and MORE!!) and air them summer and winter. As a fan of the original Dallas, I’m loving the new Dallas! I miss it already and cannot wait until the next season!!
dallasviewer
April 22, 2013 @ 8:54 pm
I watched the original and the reboot of Dallas. It is a great show and I hope they bring it back for many more seasons!
Jason Huskey
April 22, 2013 @ 3:25 pm
I would love to see it go to a full length season (22 episodes plus). I don,t care about the start time, just more Dallas. The original dallas seasons ranged anywhere from 24-30 shows, but jr was never one for conformity
DawnCntn
April 22, 2013 @ 2:53 pm
I will watch Dallas anytime that it is on! Doesn’t matter to me as long as I don’t have to wait that long to see the next season!!
Nancy
April 21, 2013 @ 2:25 pm
Keep both winter and summer. Air it on a Tuesday . Friday and Saturday will be a suicide mission
j r you wing
April 21, 2013 @ 12:14 pm
A former relative of Jock Ewing should surface demanding a part of the Ewing fortune as well with Bobby requiring Ray’s and Gary’s assistance to thwart the new Ewing threat. Cast a well known actor to play Jock’s “hidden” new relation.
j r you wing
April 21, 2013 @ 12:11 pm
Dallas MUST be renewed or I am done with TNT. It should be on Wednesday nights in the fall of 2013 for 12 episodes followed by season 4 on starting June 2014 also on wednesday nights. Bobby and Sue Ellen center the plot and Cliff is a great counter foil. I want Ray Krebs back with some meaty plot of his own too. Forget Principal. She’s thinks too much of herself. Her character was laid to rest with JR. JR can live on with many prior deals he did coming to light as frauds leaving bobby and his clan to fix the mess left in JR’s wake.
Andre
April 20, 2013 @ 9:57 pm
DALLAS needs to bring back Victoria Principal (who played Pamela) to the cast, as well as add Joan Van Ark and Ted Shackelford (who played Valene and Gary both in the original Dallas and Knots Landing).
They do need to pull in the KNOTS LANDING fans. The Mitch Pileggi, Judith Light, and Steven Webber additions this year were right on. DALLAS is better performs its melodrama when caliber stars are there to act it out. Bring the power house stars and sell the hell out of it. Make it all an ‘event’. People will flock to it like they have before. That is also why they flocked to J.R.’s funeral. It was an ‘event’.
The show is great and I never watched the original. I was always a KNOTS LANDING fan. But I will be renting the original DALLAS this summer.
Do not give up on it. Stick with it and be smart! Southfork Ranch has a lot to tell still!
claudia
April 20, 2013 @ 3:41 pm
I think it should air both, summer and winter.
SuperA
April 20, 2013 @ 4:39 am
I think dallas should stay on air and also, Monday for US AND UK would be nice after all I am like biggest fan of dallas EVER.
Joey Keenum
April 20, 2013 @ 4:28 am
Bring Dallas back to Friday nights! It worked for 13 seasons!
Robbie
April 20, 2013 @ 2:05 am
I don’t care what you do as long as Dallas has a Season 3 and so on. You either are a Dallas fan from the beginning or you’re not. The fans will always be there and be supportive of the show. Since the death of J.R. the show must go on lets see if John Ross can take the reins and walk in his daddys boots. The season finale 2 was Amazing can’t wait for the winter or whichever TNT decides. As long as I see that Dallas skyline again and Southfork Ranch.
Robbid
April 20, 2013 @ 2:04 am
I don’t care what you do as long as Dallas has a Season 3 and so on. You either are a Dallas fan from the beginning or you’re not. The fans will always be there and be supportive of the show. Since the death of J.R. the show must go on lets see if John Ross can take the reins and walk in his daddys boots. The season finale 2 was Amazing can’t wait for the winter or whichever TNT decides. As long as I see that Dallas skyline again and Southfork Ranch.
dallas guy
April 20, 2013 @ 12:08 am
Did TNT have some other show to air during the winter instead if Dallas? Yes the s2 ratings were lower but without Dallas TNT wouldn’t have even registered. The question for TNT: go the the bigger summer ratings or keep the network lights on during the winter?
cyndi
April 19, 2013 @ 8:21 pm
I will watch Dallas any time it is on….summer, winter, spring or fall. Dallas was advertised a lot on cbs in the beginning and I feel th at helped alot but more advertising needs to be done. If TNTdecides not to air until summer 2014, they
should air season 2 again to keep the fire burning. I love dallas so much and I’m
I’m in ky 50s. Thank you.
Jeff
April 19, 2013 @ 8:09 pm
I always liked the friday night show of the original. For some reason I never liked this show on Monday night. After a long work week, I like the idea of just chillin and watching Dallas. This show is deserving of a third season. It has some of the best story writing, and I have never been a fan of reality tv.
Dj Dan
April 19, 2013 @ 5:21 pm
Dallas is awesome. Here in the UK Channel 5 was the wrong Channel to air the show. They certainly took no pride in it. It deserves better ;-)
Tina
April 19, 2013 @ 5:09 pm
It is kind of a mess they should have left it in the summer however we would not have episodes from Larry Hagman if season two was in the summer not the fall. That being said the show needs to be in the summer so it may have some kind of chance at staying viable in the ratings. I think if they had episodes appear through out the year before the summer season of 2014 that would help because otherwise the wait for new shows would be way too long.
Ed N.
April 19, 2013 @ 4:50 pm
I feel Dallas should definitely continue, but we should not have to wait until summer of 2014 for it to do so. It is a great show and will help keep Larry Hagman’s and J.R.’s memories alive.
Sherry T.
April 19, 2013 @ 3:20 pm
Dallas, TNT Executives, here’s the best advise: DONT MESS WITH TEXAS AND NEVER MESS WITH FANS OF THE DALLAS TNT SHOW!
cynthia wallace
April 19, 2013 @ 3:08 pm
Dallas should definitely have season 3,4,5.6.7. . Get my drift. Best show on t.v. by a long shot. I watched the original Dallas t.v. show and it was great. It will definitely be watched by older viewers, and along with the young new cast should atract younger people too. I enjoyed the original Dallas, but the new episodes exceeds the old shows. I think TNT would be making a grave air for not having season 3. I am very much looking forward to new episodes. Great show, great wiriters, and even better cast members. Definitely a home run for TNT.
Dallas Divas Derby
April 19, 2013 @ 3:06 pm
Clearly, the show took a major hit this winter in the ratings. The ratings have been largely stagnant or declining all season, with notable bumps for J.R.’s funeral episode and the season finale.
Because they moved season 2 to the winter, they’re in a bit of a pickle. The show has to be on the more expensive side to produce. Larger cast, location shoots, etc. And it’s a serial, and once you stop drawing in new viewers, or worse, losing them, it’s hard to reverse that spiral in a serial with continuing storylines.
I suspect if they do a season 3 in the winter, the show could see some budget cuts, and maybe a shorter season. But at least there would only be about a 7-8 month gap before the new season. Alternatively, they could move it back to summer and hope to get the ratings back, but that would mean it could be off-air for whopping 14 months before the next season. While some shows like Mad Men can get away with that, I think “Dallas” would be much more vulnerable to viewer abandonment if the hiatus was that long.
I think they should split the difference, Order up 15 eps for season 3. Show 7 of them next winter, with a mini-cliffhanger, and then the other 8 next summer. After that, they could continue to do split seasons, or just move it entirely back to summer if future seasons are ordered.
Either way, they’ve put themselves in a pickle for season 3. It’s a risk of losing ad revenue and/or viewers, either way.
-DDD
Sherry T.
April 19, 2013 @ 3:05 pm
Summer and Fall. Wed, Fri or Sat, 8pm. This show is still very popular with loyal fans that have watched since 1978. No other show on TNT has that following! You bet the fans, me included, are IRATE @ the thought of Dallas not coming back! Fans watch the shows, we have power! ITS TIME THE EXECUTIVES RESPECT THE THOUGHTS OF FANS! WE’RE EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO GIVE ADVISE ON EXCELLENT STORY LINES! WHY DONT YOU TRY US? BUT FIRST, LISTEN!!!
Chad
April 19, 2013 @ 2:19 pm
I think it should air both, summer and winter, but instead of Monday nights, Friday or Saturday nights. That would take care of any rating or competition fears because the Networks don’t have anything to watch on those nights. Also, the audience that tunes in isn’t out living it up on those nights, they are just sitting at home wishing Dallas was on.