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	Comments on: &#8216;Curiosity: Brainwashed&#8217; review: Discovery&#8217;s most haunting one yet	</title>
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		By: janie		</title>
		<link>https://cartermatt.com/38380/curiosity-brainwashed-review-discoverys-most-haunting-one-yet/#comment-86211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[janie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, it might have been staged, but I must say I couldn&#039;t turn the channel.  Very interesting and thought provoking (not to mention that Ivan is cute, cute, cute!!!).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it might have been staged, but I must say I couldn&#8217;t turn the channel.  Very interesting and thought provoking (not to mention that Ivan is cute, cute, cute!!!).</p>
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		By: connie		</title>
		<link>https://cartermatt.com/38380/curiosity-brainwashed-review-discoverys-most-haunting-one-yet/#comment-86197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[connie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s fake :( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4961273/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s fake :( <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4961273/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4961273/</a></p>
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		By: Ou812		</title>
		<link>https://cartermatt.com/38380/curiosity-brainwashed-review-discoverys-most-haunting-one-yet/#comment-86082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ou812]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ivan , if you are reading this ... SLEEP !! ... Now wait for your instructions]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan , if you are reading this &#8230; SLEEP !! &#8230; Now wait for your instructions</p>
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		By: Annie		</title>
		<link>https://cartermatt.com/38380/curiosity-brainwashed-review-discoverys-most-haunting-one-yet/#comment-85218</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband and I felt that, after this &quot;experiment, &quot; Ivan would need to seek another profession other than as a corrections officer by the very nature of the subject.  Would an employer in the corrections field really want an employee who handled fire arms to be so suggestible and who was hypnotised in the manner that Ivan was?  Ivan was very photogenic.  I would imagine that after appearing in this segment, he would have been approached for minor, if not major, acting positions such as commercials.  Perhaps, he needed to find a new profession.  Since, if you investigate other similar experiments into Manchurian candidates on the Internet, you will find similar results.  That, of course, does not make this particular one 100% real, but it does seem to increase the likelihood.  I was rather surprised to see that so many people wanted this to be authentic.  We found it to be disturbing, and, in fact hoped and still do, that it was faked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I felt that, after this &#8220;experiment, &#8221; Ivan would need to seek another profession other than as a corrections officer by the very nature of the subject.  Would an employer in the corrections field really want an employee who handled fire arms to be so suggestible and who was hypnotised in the manner that Ivan was?  Ivan was very photogenic.  I would imagine that after appearing in this segment, he would have been approached for minor, if not major, acting positions such as commercials.  Perhaps, he needed to find a new profession.  Since, if you investigate other similar experiments into Manchurian candidates on the Internet, you will find similar results.  That, of course, does not make this particular one 100% real, but it does seem to increase the likelihood.  I was rather surprised to see that so many people wanted this to be authentic.  We found it to be disturbing, and, in fact hoped and still do, that it was faked.</p>
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		By: DOB87		</title>
		<link>https://cartermatt.com/38380/curiosity-brainwashed-review-discoverys-most-haunting-one-yet/#comment-70349</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Ivan is an &quot;actor&quot; in that he has had a few gigs since 2010.  However, he was a full time correction officer when this was filmed.  Go look at his IMDB and see what he was in.  I would be surprised if anyone recognizes any of them.  Even if you read his biography on there, it states that he started pursuing acting in 2010, and had a few small roles.

It makes sense that a person who was pursing an acting career would attempt to get himself on television, especially on a decently large, worldwide viewed, show such as curiosity.  That does not mean it was faked.  Actors and those interested in the arts tend to be more susceptible to suggestion.  Look at Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Isaac Hayes, or any of the other actors\artists who have been seduced by Scientology.

I feel for the guy.  There is no way he was acting in this.  Just look at the ice bath test.  It should be impossibke for any person to submerge themselves in an ice bath like that with no physiological response.  Some people could tough it out, but not without their heart rate increasing.  There is only one other person I&#039;ve ever heard of who was able to anything similar, and he was on Stan Lee&#039;s Superhumans.  His body, even at the cellular level, reacted differently to cold, but he was the only known person to be that way.  Even he had physiological reactions to cold, but could endure it better than anyone else.  He ran a half marathon, barefoot, in the Arctic circle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ivan is an &#8220;actor&#8221; in that he has had a few gigs since 2010.  However, he was a full time correction officer when this was filmed.  Go look at his IMDB and see what he was in.  I would be surprised if anyone recognizes any of them.  Even if you read his biography on there, it states that he started pursuing acting in 2010, and had a few small roles.</p>
<p>It makes sense that a person who was pursing an acting career would attempt to get himself on television, especially on a decently large, worldwide viewed, show such as curiosity.  That does not mean it was faked.  Actors and those interested in the arts tend to be more susceptible to suggestion.  Look at Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Isaac Hayes, or any of the other actors\artists who have been seduced by Scientology.</p>
<p>I feel for the guy.  There is no way he was acting in this.  Just look at the ice bath test.  It should be impossibke for any person to submerge themselves in an ice bath like that with no physiological response.  Some people could tough it out, but not without their heart rate increasing.  There is only one other person I&#8217;ve ever heard of who was able to anything similar, and he was on Stan Lee&#8217;s Superhumans.  His body, even at the cellular level, reacted differently to cold, but he was the only known person to be that way.  Even he had physiological reactions to cold, but could endure it better than anyone else.  He ran a half marathon, barefoot, in the Arctic circle.</p>
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		By: Shoop		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shoop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AND, as I read the comments:

IVAN IS AN ACTOR. 

End of story.

Good Lord, are any of the &quot;doctors&quot; and &quot;scientists&quot; real????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND, as I read the comments:</p>
<p>IVAN IS AN ACTOR. </p>
<p>End of story.</p>
<p>Good Lord, are any of the &#8220;doctors&#8221; and &#8220;scientists&#8221; real????</p>
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		By: Shoop		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wanted to believe this. However....

The shooting scene was completely staged. Ivan, at the very least, had to be involved in multiple takes. But more likely, he was just part of the con.

1. Watch the shadows. They vary greatly. Some shots were taken mid-day. Some shots were taken when the shadows were much longer, later in the day.

2. Watch were the &quot;dignitary&quot; falls. Lines and grates on the ground are in a different place depending on camera angle.

3. Watch where Ivan takes his shot from. When shot face-on, he is in front of the corner. Overhead shots put him behind the corner. (Actually, a totally different corner.)

These three things are absolute. Not a matter of opinion. Objective observation.

There are a lot of subjective things that don&#039;t &quot;feel&quot; right as well.  

1. The way Ivan steps around the triggering producer on the way to the motorcycle is just false. They&#039;re too close to each other to begin with. Then there is a very stilted walk-around. 

2. The way Ivan pulls the gun out of the backpack is very awkward. A corrections officer would handle a gun with live ammo much more securely.

2. The gun recoils falsely. Too lightly. 

3. As has been noted, onlookers from the background don&#039;t seem overly concerned at witnessing an apparent assassination. 

Sucks, because I wanted this to be real. But, they lie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to believe this. However&#8230;.</p>
<p>The shooting scene was completely staged. Ivan, at the very least, had to be involved in multiple takes. But more likely, he was just part of the con.</p>
<p>1. Watch the shadows. They vary greatly. Some shots were taken mid-day. Some shots were taken when the shadows were much longer, later in the day.</p>
<p>2. Watch were the &#8220;dignitary&#8221; falls. Lines and grates on the ground are in a different place depending on camera angle.</p>
<p>3. Watch where Ivan takes his shot from. When shot face-on, he is in front of the corner. Overhead shots put him behind the corner. (Actually, a totally different corner.)</p>
<p>These three things are absolute. Not a matter of opinion. Objective observation.</p>
<p>There are a lot of subjective things that don&#8217;t &#8220;feel&#8221; right as well.  </p>
<p>1. The way Ivan steps around the triggering producer on the way to the motorcycle is just false. They&#8217;re too close to each other to begin with. Then there is a very stilted walk-around. </p>
<p>2. The way Ivan pulls the gun out of the backpack is very awkward. A corrections officer would handle a gun with live ammo much more securely.</p>
<p>2. The gun recoils falsely. Too lightly. </p>
<p>3. As has been noted, onlookers from the background don&#8217;t seem overly concerned at witnessing an apparent assassination. </p>
<p>Sucks, because I wanted this to be real. But, they lie.</p>
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		By: mike hudson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My name is Mike Hudson and I was the paramedic assigned to the Ice bath experiment and Ivan was not acting i am almost 99% sure...there is no way anyone can overide that temp of the water. 36 degrees F  shuts your muscles down and the pain is off the chart in the first 30 seconds. he wasn&#039;t faking.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Mike Hudson and I was the paramedic assigned to the Ice bath experiment and Ivan was not acting i am almost 99% sure&#8230;there is no way anyone can overide that temp of the water. 36 degrees F  shuts your muscles down and the pain is off the chart in the first 30 seconds. he wasn&#8217;t faking&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
		<link>https://cartermatt.com/38380/curiosity-brainwashed-review-discoverys-most-haunting-one-yet/#comment-66273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe the real experiment was too see if the scientists could be fooled or if the viewing audience could be fooled. 

Many criticisms of such shows fail to account for the fact that hundreds of hours of video need to be edited to make a compelling TV show - and if B roll is used to make up for any issue with the main footage then something like having the stunt man lay down again for another shot can be easily explained. 

I was thinking while watching that they had best be filming in an area with no Concealed Carry allowed else some random passerby might step in resulting in some Actuality TV.

Perhaps they should have used a Mythbusters like summary at the end and simply called it Plausible, of course if Ivan was not truly hypnotized but simply acting then even Plausible is tenuous at best. Even if he was not, then perhaps the fault lies with the experts being unable to tell that he was acting - they did comment that some folks seemed to be acting. He did seem relatively calm throughout the process of being debriefed etc, I think most people would be more visible upset by the experience. But again with training as a corrections officer or even any experience with handguns the looking around for example may have been a result of the &quot;brainwashing&quot; known as training for handling a deadly weapon.  

The ice test was interesting but could have been cleverly edited - lack of thermal imaging may have been simply due to editing but would have been nice to see if perhaps your body&#039;s autonomic responses really could be modified, though it does see that no matter what your physiology or training that two minutes in an ice bath would produce some effect despite your perception of the experience and after being removed from the tub and waken up I expected to see the shivers and chattering of teeth set in since he must still have been quite cold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the real experiment was too see if the scientists could be fooled or if the viewing audience could be fooled. </p>
<p>Many criticisms of such shows fail to account for the fact that hundreds of hours of video need to be edited to make a compelling TV show &#8211; and if B roll is used to make up for any issue with the main footage then something like having the stunt man lay down again for another shot can be easily explained. </p>
<p>I was thinking while watching that they had best be filming in an area with no Concealed Carry allowed else some random passerby might step in resulting in some Actuality TV.</p>
<p>Perhaps they should have used a Mythbusters like summary at the end and simply called it Plausible, of course if Ivan was not truly hypnotized but simply acting then even Plausible is tenuous at best. Even if he was not, then perhaps the fault lies with the experts being unable to tell that he was acting &#8211; they did comment that some folks seemed to be acting. He did seem relatively calm throughout the process of being debriefed etc, I think most people would be more visible upset by the experience. But again with training as a corrections officer or even any experience with handguns the looking around for example may have been a result of the &#8220;brainwashing&#8221; known as training for handling a deadly weapon.  </p>
<p>The ice test was interesting but could have been cleverly edited &#8211; lack of thermal imaging may have been simply due to editing but would have been nice to see if perhaps your body&#8217;s autonomic responses really could be modified, though it does see that no matter what your physiology or training that two minutes in an ice bath would produce some effect despite your perception of the experience and after being removed from the tub and waken up I expected to see the shivers and chattering of teeth set in since he must still have been quite cold.</p>
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		By: matt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was a very interesting show. I had to google it afterward to see if there was any news related to it. Of course there wasn&#039;t. If this was all done as a true scientific experiment there would be a lot of hype about it. To the woman who wrote letters to the producers and other folks responsible for the show, you&#039;d do yourself wonders to not be so naive. It was an entertaining show but that was it. An entertaining show.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very interesting show. I had to google it afterward to see if there was any news related to it. Of course there wasn&#8217;t. If this was all done as a true scientific experiment there would be a lot of hype about it. To the woman who wrote letters to the producers and other folks responsible for the show, you&#8217;d do yourself wonders to not be so naive. It was an entertaining show but that was it. An entertaining show.</p>
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