Exactly. He was alone with her in that house for 3 to 5 days. A lot of things can happen in that amount of time and I still think a lot did happen while he was alone with her. lol I doubt they just spent that time talking and just sitting around. Especially when Tony and Ziva knew very well that they might not see each other again for a long, long time, if ever. You have to make the time count and after the “olive grove” scene, I’m pretty convinced they did.

Well, in the recent episode Zoe is not only in Tony’s apartment, she also has a key to his apartment and is meeting Senior. Yes, they are implying that things are serious between them. Tony has said in this episode that him and Zoe are “in a good place” but he has yet to say he loves her and seemed very annoyed by her in this episode. I just don’t see this working out too long. He’s with her and I think he’s comfortable but that’s about it. Michael Weatherly saying that, I don’t think he was implying that they meant nothing to each other. He said they were co workers, friends and they never dated but he did say they were star crossed. I take that as the love was there, the feelings were there, the concern was there, and the potential to be in a good relationship was there but Gibbs and rule 12 got in their way. I’m happy that we got Tango, Whisky, Foxtrot and Past, Present, and Future because at least he was going to go to Israel to spend time with Ziva and alone and to change things about their relationship. Have to be happy with the little things. He did get to spend time alone with her in Israel. As for Zoe, I don’t hate her but she won’t ever be Ziva to Tony. I’m still convinced that they will be together in the end. We just have to wait it out.

I totally agree with your post AGENT CARTER. I just hope that the upcoming episode is not the swan song for Zoe and Tony.

I don’t know that the other members of the team knew about Tony’s childhood. Tony lied about it for a long time. The only one that I saw him share with was Ziva. He found a roll of film and had it developed and there was a picture of Tony with his mother right before she died. I remember that Ziva commented about how beautiful she was.

The thing with Tony taking Ziva home to his apartment after her father died was a big moment for him. Tony never brought women to his apartment. He always visited his ladies at their place. He had a single bed in his bedroom, no room for company. There was a scene with his father where he explained that his apartment was a place for him to be alone and escape from everything. Ziva was the only woman that we ever saw in Tony’s apartment. For him to bring Ziva home to his apartment to take care of her was a game change for him. He also found her friend, Shmeil and brought him to the apartment. This was in the episode, Shiva. If you see Zoe in Tony’s apartment, then it is probably a serious relationship–that is if the writers know the history of the characters.

Michael Weatherly can say there was nothing between Tony and Ziva but that means he missed all of the clues that were written into the script. I think that he is smarter than that. TPTB may be telling him to back pedal.on the whole issue.

My own personal opinion is that Ziva and Tony were soul mates. They both had crappy dads. They understood each other. Ziva’s father left his wife for Orli, a younger woman. He trained Ziva to be an assassin and sent her on a suicide mission. When she got in trouble in Somalia, he didn’t even attempt to rescue her. Gibbs and McGee went with Tony because they probably knew Tony would go it alone if he had to. .Ziva and Gibbs similarly had a special relationship. They both had the job of killing people, Gibbs as a sniper and Ziva as an assassin. I so loved this show until Cote left. Almost every episode kept me glued to my TV.

Tony told Gibbs that he was going “off the grid for a few days.” and he was in Ziva’s house. Few usually means “not a lot”–I would say 3 to 5 days..

They could have really given Tony some interesting drama if the writers hadn’t decided after Flesh and Blood to turn Senior into a comic, aging, rapscallion instead of a darker, less sympathetic character that was alluded to several times in the Bellasario days. I really hope that the upcoming episode isn’t another in a pretty consistent line of Senior episodes where we see Tony treated as the bad guy while everyone coddles Senior.

I’m put as a guest but I replied to your last message. No, you can’t blame Tony for being angry at Senior for his crappy childhood and it’s also not right that team thinks that Tony is always too hard on Senior when he comes to visit. They should understand as a team what Senior put Tony through growing up and that it would continue to effect their relationship now that he’s grown. Tony only had a few good relationships with women on the show. Wendy, who he was engaged to, Jeanne which was doomed from the start because it was all based on a lie, EJ which I have myself convinced was just to be sexually satisfied but also to distract himself from being jealous over Ziva and Ray, and of course Ziva herself. They never dated in those 8 years of working together but I don’t that in Seasons 9 and 10, they were slowly taking things futher. Tony in Season 10 made his feelings for Ziva pretty clear, especially during her fathers death and during the Bodnar arc. In the beginning of season 11, Tony was going all out when he was planning to go be with Ziva in Israel and I think their feelings were pretty clear by that point. Zoe is who he is now dating and we will see Tuesday where that leads but I’m pretty sure the commitment issue thing by be brought up in the next episode with Senior because he still resents his dad for so many things. Anyways, we will have to wait and see what happens but I have to believe that Senior and Tony will talk things out and make up like they do in every other episode together.