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	Comments on: &#8216;Supernatural&#8217; season 9, episode 20 review: Did &#8216;Bloodlines&#8217; take itself too seriously?	</title>
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		By: Martin Anders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Anders]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[There
 has been a lot of hype about the spinoff and believe it or not, I was 
excited about this episode. Whether or not it was good enough for a 
spinoff, I had expected they would end up making a great Supernatural 
episode - after all, in order to get people interested in the spin-off, 
you should pull out all the stops. Bring in some great humor and drama 
and tension, draw from the parent-show&#039;s mythology and make us care 
about these new characters. There have been characters who&#039;ve endeared 
themselves to the audience in their first appearance (Bobby, Rufus and 
Charlie come to mind), so its not impossible. 

Sadly,
 I found this episode to be lacking in all departments. More than that, 
when I read about the theme of the spinoff, I was worried on four counts
 - I was hoping that it would avoid these four scenarios, but judging by
 this episode, the spinoff would not only not avoid it, but employ it to
 full measure:

1.
 &quot;I just want to be human&quot;-monster - Most frequently seen with vampires -
 the tragic hero who wants to go against his nature and live a &quot;normal 
human life&quot;, but keeps getting pulled back into the mess due to destiny 
or moral obligations. Here, we have a resident shape-shifter filling 
that role. 

2. 
The antagonist is the &quot;real&quot; monster - For the simple reason that he is 
against the &quot;protagonists&quot; and to hell with whether or not he has a real
 grievance. Here we have a hunter who wants revenge for his dead son, 
whose killing of the human girl was accidental (who dies from bumping 
their head?) and who wants to kill the mafia-monsters involved with 
crimes like organ-trafficking - but he is the real monster? In any other
 episode the Winchesters would be giving him tips and some of their 
arsenal, not watching him get shot without blinking. 

3.
 Ignoring the canon - Supernatural has built up a diverse and 
interesting monster-world over the seasons and in its own way, it is 
pretty realistic. Shapeshifters have to go through the messy process of 
shedding their skin and can download memories. Werewolves are rarely 
aware of their own nature - they can shift voluntarily only if they are 
close to the Alpha and have difficulty controlling their desire to eat 
human hearts. The other monsters all have their unique powers and needs 
and ways of being killed. None of that was in this episode. The monsters we 
were your generic claws-and-fangs type and the more interesting aspects 
of monster lore were completely ignored. The whole, switching-on-a-dime 
used to be a sign of a different level of creature - like the 
Alpha-shifter or Eve or Leviathans or Angels - but now, apparently any 
shape-shifter can do it. 

4. Low-stakes affair - In Supernatural, first we had 
old demons trying to release an ancient evil. Then we had Lucifer 
bringing about the apocalypse. Then we had a primordial monster trying 
to turn the entire human race. Then we had a new god. Then there was 
another race who wanted to turn humans into farm animals. And now we are
 dealing with a new &quot;god&quot;, armies of angels and war in hell. Those are 
the seasonal stakes in Supernatural. So, its going to be a little hard 
getting to care about &quot;which family controls which sector in the city&quot; 
when we know that elsewhere in the same world, the Winchesters are 
dealing with much bigger issues. 

Apart from all this, I just felt that the potential spinoff had too much wasted potential. The writers made a lot of other mistakes which made the episode worse. 

1.
 Info-dumps don&#039;t make us care about the characters - We didn&#039;t get 
Bobby or Charlie&#039;s backstory the first time they came along and we liked
 them just fine. This episode kept going back to &quot;who&#039;s in love with 
whom&quot; and &quot;family histories&quot; and &quot;character connections&quot; instead of 
developing characters as individuals and making them likeable on their 
own. 

2.
 Ennis&#039; motivation - I didn&#039;t feel like he had much of it. Why did he 
think that a monster killed his fiancee when all he had to go on was a 
hooded face and knife-claws? And why is he so hellbent on being a hunter
 when a human killed her? And is he supposed to be a cop? I didn&#039;t see 
much evidence of that. With a lot of other hunters we have a lot more 
emotional depth regarding their very personal reasons to be a hunter - 
there was none of that here. It didn&#039;t help that the acting wasn&#039;t all that great. I remember that in the Supernatural pilot, I was instantly taken with both Sam and Dean and it had a lot to do with how J&#038;J played the role. 

3.
 Super-powered human - So, apparently there is this untrained hunter 
looking for revenge who is, as far as we know, just a human and can take
 out a club full of monsters with just a set of claws? And then sneak 
into a werewolf household without being detected and get away with the 
girl? But then he gets pwned by her in two seconds flat? Were they 
magical claws or something? 

4.
 So much wasted potential - Supernatural has already built such a rich 
world for them to pick from. Why keep bringing back the regular boring 
monsters like werewolves and vampires who just bring out their claws and
 fangs to fight? Why not bring a little djinn-action into the mix? Why 
not highlight the shape-shifter capabilities to download the thoughts? 
Why not throw in a &quot;bigger-threat&quot; about to shake their world - like the
 remnants of Leviathans trying to establish a power base? Or bringing in
 some of the old Gods? Anything more interesting than one shapeshifter 
and a whole lot of claws and fangs. 

So,
 if the spinoff does get picked up, the only reason I can think of to 
watch it would be that instead of focusing on angsty drama and sappy 
love stories, they develop more on rich Supernatural lore instead of 
throwing canon out of the window - but judging by this episode, I don&#039;t 
see it happening. 

Marty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There<br />
 has been a lot of hype about the spinoff and believe it or not, I was<br />
excited about this episode. Whether or not it was good enough for a<br />
spinoff, I had expected they would end up making a great Supernatural<br />
episode &#8211; after all, in order to get people interested in the spin-off,<br />
you should pull out all the stops. Bring in some great humor and drama<br />
and tension, draw from the parent-show&#8217;s mythology and make us care<br />
about these new characters. There have been characters who&#8217;ve endeared<br />
themselves to the audience in their first appearance (Bobby, Rufus and<br />
Charlie come to mind), so its not impossible. </p>
<p>Sadly,<br />
 I found this episode to be lacking in all departments. More than that,<br />
when I read about the theme of the spinoff, I was worried on four counts<br />
 &#8211; I was hoping that it would avoid these four scenarios, but judging by<br />
 this episode, the spinoff would not only not avoid it, but employ it to<br />
 full measure:</p>
<p>1.<br />
 &#8220;I just want to be human&#8221;-monster &#8211; Most frequently seen with vampires &#8211;<br />
 the tragic hero who wants to go against his nature and live a &#8220;normal<br />
human life&#8221;, but keeps getting pulled back into the mess due to destiny<br />
or moral obligations. Here, we have a resident shape-shifter filling<br />
that role. </p>
<p>2.<br />
The antagonist is the &#8220;real&#8221; monster &#8211; For the simple reason that he is<br />
against the &#8220;protagonists&#8221; and to hell with whether or not he has a real<br />
 grievance. Here we have a hunter who wants revenge for his dead son,<br />
whose killing of the human girl was accidental (who dies from bumping<br />
their head?) and who wants to kill the mafia-monsters involved with<br />
crimes like organ-trafficking &#8211; but he is the real monster? In any other<br />
 episode the Winchesters would be giving him tips and some of their<br />
arsenal, not watching him get shot without blinking. </p>
<p>3.<br />
 Ignoring the canon &#8211; Supernatural has built up a diverse and<br />
interesting monster-world over the seasons and in its own way, it is<br />
pretty realistic. Shapeshifters have to go through the messy process of<br />
shedding their skin and can download memories. Werewolves are rarely<br />
aware of their own nature &#8211; they can shift voluntarily only if they are<br />
close to the Alpha and have difficulty controlling their desire to eat<br />
human hearts. The other monsters all have their unique powers and needs<br />
and ways of being killed. None of that was in this episode. The monsters we<br />
were your generic claws-and-fangs type and the more interesting aspects<br />
of monster lore were completely ignored. The whole, switching-on-a-dime<br />
used to be a sign of a different level of creature &#8211; like the<br />
Alpha-shifter or Eve or Leviathans or Angels &#8211; but now, apparently any<br />
shape-shifter can do it. </p>
<p>4. Low-stakes affair &#8211; In Supernatural, first we had<br />
old demons trying to release an ancient evil. Then we had Lucifer<br />
bringing about the apocalypse. Then we had a primordial monster trying<br />
to turn the entire human race. Then we had a new god. Then there was<br />
another race who wanted to turn humans into farm animals. And now we are<br />
 dealing with a new &#8220;god&#8221;, armies of angels and war in hell. Those are<br />
the seasonal stakes in Supernatural. So, its going to be a little hard<br />
getting to care about &#8220;which family controls which sector in the city&#8221;<br />
when we know that elsewhere in the same world, the Winchesters are<br />
dealing with much bigger issues. </p>
<p>Apart from all this, I just felt that the potential spinoff had too much wasted potential. The writers made a lot of other mistakes which made the episode worse. </p>
<p>1.<br />
 Info-dumps don&#8217;t make us care about the characters &#8211; We didn&#8217;t get<br />
Bobby or Charlie&#8217;s backstory the first time they came along and we liked<br />
 them just fine. This episode kept going back to &#8220;who&#8217;s in love with<br />
whom&#8221; and &#8220;family histories&#8221; and &#8220;character connections&#8221; instead of<br />
developing characters as individuals and making them likeable on their<br />
own. </p>
<p>2.<br />
 Ennis&#8217; motivation &#8211; I didn&#8217;t feel like he had much of it. Why did he<br />
think that a monster killed his fiancee when all he had to go on was a<br />
hooded face and knife-claws? And why is he so hellbent on being a hunter<br />
 when a human killed her? And is he supposed to be a cop? I didn&#8217;t see<br />
much evidence of that. With a lot of other hunters we have a lot more<br />
emotional depth regarding their very personal reasons to be a hunter &#8211;<br />
there was none of that here. It didn&#8217;t help that the acting wasn&#8217;t all that great. I remember that in the Supernatural pilot, I was instantly taken with both Sam and Dean and it had a lot to do with how J&amp;J played the role. </p>
<p>3.<br />
 Super-powered human &#8211; So, apparently there is this untrained hunter<br />
looking for revenge who is, as far as we know, just a human and can take<br />
 out a club full of monsters with just a set of claws? And then sneak<br />
into a werewolf household without being detected and get away with the<br />
girl? But then he gets pwned by her in two seconds flat? Were they<br />
magical claws or something? </p>
<p>4.<br />
 So much wasted potential &#8211; Supernatural has already built such a rich<br />
world for them to pick from. Why keep bringing back the regular boring<br />
monsters like werewolves and vampires who just bring out their claws and<br />
 fangs to fight? Why not bring a little djinn-action into the mix? Why<br />
not highlight the shape-shifter capabilities to download the thoughts?<br />
Why not throw in a &#8220;bigger-threat&#8221; about to shake their world &#8211; like the<br />
 remnants of Leviathans trying to establish a power base? Or bringing in<br />
 some of the old Gods? Anything more interesting than one shapeshifter<br />
and a whole lot of claws and fangs. </p>
<p>So,<br />
 if the spinoff does get picked up, the only reason I can think of to<br />
watch it would be that instead of focusing on angsty drama and sappy<br />
love stories, they develop more on rich Supernatural lore instead of<br />
throwing canon out of the window &#8211; but judging by this episode, I don&#8217;t<br />
see it happening. </p>
<p>Marty.</p>
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		By: Joe Lagoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Lagoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 05:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cartermatt.com/118810/supernatural-season-9-episode-20-review-bloodlines-take-seriously/#comment-133546&quot;&gt;Lkeke&lt;/a&gt;.

I made it 15 minutes in so you did better than I could.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cartermatt.com/118810/supernatural-season-9-episode-20-review-bloodlines-take-seriously/#comment-133546">Lkeke</a>.</p>
<p>I made it 15 minutes in so you did better than I could.</p>
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		By: susan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[susan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This episode was awful. No need to be a Supernatural episode. They could&#039;ve had any actor or actors play hunters that gave the new guy his one minute intro into the world of monsters. The guy didn&#039;t care he was talking to the freakin&#039; Winchesters. I agree with someone on another site that the potential to blur the lines even more on the rules of monsters is a potential problem for viewers who might watch both series. It won&#039;t be for me though since I won&#039;t be tuning in to this spinoff.
Supernatural has way too much to wrap up before the end of this season and this was a wasted episode.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode was awful. No need to be a Supernatural episode. They could&#8217;ve had any actor or actors play hunters that gave the new guy his one minute intro into the world of monsters. The guy didn&#8217;t care he was talking to the freakin&#8217; Winchesters. I agree with someone on another site that the potential to blur the lines even more on the rules of monsters is a potential problem for viewers who might watch both series. It won&#8217;t be for me though since I won&#8217;t be tuning in to this spinoff.<br />
Supernatural has way too much to wrap up before the end of this season and this was a wasted episode.</p>
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		By: Lkeke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lkeke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was just a retread of The Originals, set in Chicago. Even the first episode of Supernatural, though meant to be scary, had moments of comedy. This had none of that. Just a lot of deeply earnest conversations with characters staring into one another&#039;s eyes and explaining their lives to each other. I haven&#039;t deliberately missed an episode of supernatural in five years but I got about 30 minutes  in before I had to bail.

Btw: I hate The Originals. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just a retread of The Originals, set in Chicago. Even the first episode of Supernatural, though meant to be scary, had moments of comedy. This had none of that. Just a lot of deeply earnest conversations with characters staring into one another&#8217;s eyes and explaining their lives to each other. I haven&#8217;t deliberately missed an episode of supernatural in five years but I got about 30 minutes  in before I had to bail.</p>
<p>Btw: I hate The Originals. </p>
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